The .17 caliber rimfire cartridges include the .17 M2, .17 HMR and .17 WSM. My Uberti-made 1858 Remington .44 at 25 yards will put six balls into a 2" group from a benchrest. .17 Remington (Using Hornady Bullets) Warning! 223 Remington: 52 grain Berger MEF bullets, LaPua brass, Federal 205 M (match) primers and H 335 powder. The Remington factory load of a 25-grain bullet travelling at approximately 3,900fps (from my rifle) generating 845ft/lb energy is great if you do not want to reload. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. The 220-grain version is a great choice for heavier gameat modest ranges, of course. I had some trouble with the 25 grain vmaxes, even though i have a 1:9 twist. Cartridge Use & HistoryThe .17 Remington was introduced in 1971 by Remington Arms Company for their model 700 rifles.It is based on the .223 Remington case necked down to .172 in (4.37 mm), with the shoulder moved back. I prefer to zero a varmint rifle for its maximum point and 28-degree shoulder. These .35 Remington rounds are loaded with Speer 180- and 220-grain SPFN bullets. At 100 yards, which is a realistic distance at which you are going to shoot, the velocity has bled off to 3,010fps and the energy figures have plummeted to just over 302ft/lb, which is more than half the available energy lost before it reaches the target at 100 yards. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. In addition to the soft polymer tip, the FTX has a high antimony core, and the jacket has the InterLock ring for reliable penetration and good expansion. 25, 50, 100, and 200 yards, but all of our shooting for record was done Starting with a load of 23-grain RL15 with a 15-grain Berger produces 3,610fps. 7,024. I first became aware of his cartridge when reading a gun magazine article in the 1960s. While the accuracy with most of them was okay, the velocities of some of these powders were pretty lackluster, and these loads are shown mostly for reference only. Combine it with a hollow point or polymer tip bullet, and varmints and other small game don't stand a chance. Our .17 M2 ammunition includes Hornady, Remington and CCI brands, all using a 17 grain bullet at an advertised MV of 2100 fps. It was the most accurate rifle and load I ever used. When can deer be hunted? 77/17VMBBZ, Savage A17 and Savage Model 93R17-BVSS). According to the story, OBrien wagered that his guide could not kill the bear with his rifle in .17 Mach IVand lost the bet. The data guide lists .223 Remington loads for A-2495 with 80- and 90-grain bullets. Give a Gift For my money, the best all-round bullets for the .35 Rem. The claimed Eugene, Oregon. Roundnose bullets that mimic factory loads are available from Hornady and Sierra. Ballistic coefficients of those with plastic tips are considerably higher than the hollowpoints. This makes for a light recoil round that has very good long range ballistics. Picked up a nice CZ 527 varmint a month ago. the Isaac Walton rifle range, located in the forested hills south of The 260 Remington is essentially the old wildcated 6.5-08, a 308 necked down to the .264 bullet. varmint bullet at a MV of 2550 fps and ME of 245 ft. lbs. 15 yards isn't much of a test for accuracy. Shooting reloads may void any warranty on your firearm. For the 5.56 NATO loads, with a maximum pressure of 62,350 psi, Western Powders lists 26.1 grains of A-2200 that shoots the Nosler bullet at a very quick 3,578 fps. The .44 Remington Magnum is an adaptable cartridge when fired from a handgun. It started promoting the powders and providing updated load data in its Western Powders Reloading & Load Data Guide, and Accurate powders have grown in popularity. other loads were chronographed from a Ruger 77/17VMBBZ. The original purpose of the belted magnum concept taken from the .300 H&H Magnum and .375 H&H Magnum, was to provide precise headspace . V-MAX bullet at a MV of 2550 fps and ME of 245 ft. lbs. bullets farthest apart. These were usually 17 grain varmint hunting loads velocity/energy figures for this load are 2050 fps and 159 ft. lbs. All shooting for record is recommended for this task. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. Anything that travels at those speeds with such a small mass will have a small ballistic coefficient. became obvious that we were also, unavoidably, testing the ammunition I have weighed four brands of cases and found considerable variation (10.4 percent) from the lightest (Hornady, at 145.0 grains) and the heaviest (Winchester, at 160.1 grains). The spherical powder flows easily and precisely through a powder measure. vs 9.3x62 Cartridge Clash, 11 Top Hunting Rifles Chambered in .350 Legend, Remington .50-70 Rolling Block History: New York's Pick to Arm Its National Guard, Sweet Scents of Gun Solvents and Oils: 12 Perfumes for Firearms, 10 Great .22 Mag Bolt-Action Rifles Right Now, Kimber Hunter Pro Desolve Blak - A Lightweight Heavy Hitter, Browning BLR Lightweight '81 Stainless Takedown Lever Rifle, Mossberg Patriot Predator 6.5 PRC Rifle Review, Review: Springfield Armory M1A Loaded Rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor, RCBS ChargeMaster Lite Review: Not 'Lite' on Ability, Remington Model Seven SS HS Bolt-Action Rifle Review. In the course of accuracy testing the various .17 HMR Extreme velocity spread for those loads was only 53 fps. hotter than the one listed in the 1st post and hope to be getting approx. Now we are getting somewhere and all the pressure signs are good. The chronograph was I have attempted to chamber Remington ammo in two .17 Mach IV rifles. Using Hornady .17 Hornet brass to form .17 Ackley Hornet cases eliminates the need for case-forming dies. In 1970, OBrien sold his company to Harrington & Richardson, which renamed the rifle the Model 317 Ultra Wildcat. Certainly, it was the most This short-cut, single-base extruded rifle powder competes with H-4350 and IMR-4350. Need your favorite loads for 17 Remington, Re: Need your favorite loads for 17 Remington, Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. Lighter and tougher and more precise than ever, it's the perfect back country hunting rifle. Knowledge is the most precious Accurate Arms started way back in 1946 as Accurate Arms and Machine, a gun shop in Chicago that sold surplus powders. Brass Mfg: Winchester. Accurate 2460 and Sierra 69-grain bullets in the .223 Remington combined for these groups at 100 yards. Bought one several years ago, since I load 17HH and 17 Rem. This fast-burning, double-base, extruded powder is made in Canada. The .223 is inexpensive, easy to use well, low recoiling, and often very accurate even with military ball-type ammunition. Pet Loads and Handloader are registered trademarks of Wolfe Publishing Company. can also be quite accurate. However, the key word here is initial velocity. But I and my customers experienced an almost Zen-like target using my commercial 230g Golden Saber SD load. The maximum COL is 2.525 inches, but I have found that sticking to an even 2.5 inches seems to work best. is readily suitable for shooters to load their own ammunition, and dies, other tools, and accoutrements are available, as are bullets especially designed for the round. The Western Powders manual lists Hornady 250-grain roundnose bullets with a velocity of 2,500 fps when paired with 52.0 grains of A-2015. 17 Fireball accuracy. Ive burned a lot of Accurate 4064 in the .22-250 and .243 Winchester. CCI A17: high 2813 fps; low 2742 fps; extreme spread We offer Hornady load data with over 180.000 loads in our database, covering over 300 Hornady bullets in over 175 calibers with all suitable powders on the market. With an Accu-Fit stock and left hand adjustable bolt, this rifle is a perfect choice for anyone! I am sure Years ago, a friend who worked at Remington informed me that more Model 700 rifles in .17 Rem. As with most cartridges to be used in rifles with tubular magazines, only roundnose or flatnose bullets should be used when loading the cartridgeunless you are using Hornadys flexible-tip FTX bullets. Loads are also listed for the .219 Zipper and .225 Winchester, which are rarely seen in the varmint fields these days. Case length for the .280 is 2.540 inches (same as the .270) and a bit longer than the .30-06 (2.494 inches). To achieve a balance between keeping the bullet together on firing while travelling up the bore, the bullet actually has to be tough around the jacket and therefore the tip is really the only area that can be fragile to initiate expansion. Dimensional differences between the two cases are so slight that load data for the two are interchangeable. Following is a brief description of each of the five FEDERAL Premium V-Shok: smallest group 11/16"; Bullet Allinant Reloader 10 @ 16.5 gr. Aug 29, 2009 Was at the gun show this am, looking for some h 4350 powder. Ultimately we fired a total of over 80 groups and 400+ A World Record Attempt: Practice Round and Media Day, Interview with Israeli Defense Forces, Part 1. Seated to touch & group sizes will double. Today, the .35 Rem. The new Sako Finnlight II sports an innovative stock and Cerakote metal paired with the terrific 85 action. largest group 2-3/8"; mean average group = 1-13/32". I once shot a nice 8-point whitetail buck at about 40 yards with the 220-grain SPFN, and it was a dramatic deer-drop. The Western data guide contains 5.56x45mm (5.56 NATO) load data developed in a .223 Remington chamber with Winchester .223 cases (so they are okay to shoot in either a .223 or 5.56 chamber) with a maximum average pressure of 62,350 psi. 100 yard figures are 1901 fps and 136 ft. lbs. At 200 yards, the velocity has lost a further 1,000fps and is around the 2,000fps mark and energy has dropped to 133ft/lb. The 20-grain bullet can be pushed to over 4200 fps, and the 25-grain bullet breaks the 4000 fps mark, as well. is rimless, it headspaces on its relatively small shoulder. went on to be chambered in Remington Model 14 and 141 pump actions, the Model 81 semiautomatic, and the Model 30 bolt action. The Cooper Model 21 Varminter I have been using for about several years consistently squeezes five shots inside a half-inch at 100 yards with the various bullet weights. You can't push it through grass or a sage brush & expect the bullet to make it to the critter. The Federal Premium V-Shok load we tested uses a 17 .17 Remington - Published Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholders: Hornady #16 Lee #4 Lyman #26 RCBS #10 Recipe Type: Bullet Weight: Recipe Source: Starting Max Source 15.5 gr NTX (HDY) 0.172" Powder: Benchmark (Hodgdon) Primer: REM 7 Case: REM Trim Length: 1.786" C.O.L. This the standard, not the Fireball. Accordingly, I sight-in my .17 HMR rifle to hit 1.5" high at Copyright 2005 by Chuck Hawks. Standard Large Rifle primers are perfectly adequate for the .35 Rem., as most powder charges are in the 40- to 45-grains range. My CZ 527 7.62x39 is a favorite for stalking marmots in the spring. Ive used it in the .22-250 Remington for a reduced- velocity load with 40-grain bullets to duplicate the .22 Hornet. Mikey Hartman, Lt. Col. This means the reloader must exercise care when resizing cases. Our range protocol was simple. 2525 fps and muzzle energy (ME) of 241 ft. lbs. Slower-burning powders, such as Accurate 2460 and Ramshot TAC, increase velocities with heavier bullets, but not all that much. The powder also shot well with 50-grain bullets fired in the .22-250. 6.8 Western If looking to acquire an automated powder-charge dispensing unit to speed up precision reloading, don't judge the RCBS ChargeMaster Lite powder scale and dispenser by its name; the Little Green machine packs a heavy-weight punch with speed and accuracy. Simply run a case through the Ackley full-length resizer and it is ready to load. 55mm. The reason for this precaution is due to the possibility that when a round is fired, the nose of a bullet of a cartridge in the magazine might set off the primer of the round ahead of it. average velocities than called for by the factory specifications. .17 WSM ammunition includes Winchester Elite with 20 and 25 grain tipped bullets, Hornady with a 20 grain V-MAX tipped bullet and Federal American Eagle brand with a 20 grain tipped bullet. I use IMR-3031 with a Hornady 25grHP bullet. .17 HMR ammunition is pretty darn good! Hornady bullets registered 2,454 fps burning 51.5 grains of the powder from the 22-inch barrel of a Remington Model 700 Whelen. Walther's new Performance Duty Pistol is ready for both concealed carry and conventional service situations. mean average group = 1-17/32". At longer ranges past 200 yards the 30-grain bullets do not always expand predictably, so take note. It has a 22-inch barrel with a 1:14 twist, and it wears is a Traditions 3-9X 40mm scope. COL @ 1.800" snowpro440 Silver $$ Contributor Feb 12, 2016 #9 I use H4198 in my .17 Fireball and a 25gr. If my 57-year-old eyes are clear that day. J. Scott Rupp takes a first look at the Springfield M1A Loaded rifle chambered in the popular 6.5 Creedmoor. In my opinion, as a dedicated varmint rifle it has a lot to offer the British shooter if used sensibly. Federal Hunter Match. The brass is good quality and it's great for reloading, and the loaded ammo isn't much more expensive once fired brass, which is hard to find for the .22 Hornet. Beth Shimanski of Savage introduces their all new straight-pull rifle. Who knew wild turkey's were so stupid!? The Mossberg 500 Pump Action Shotgun is one of the most popular home defense shotguns on the market. He called it the .17 Pee Wee and built a dramatically scaled-down 1917 Enfield action specifically for it. 1 Single-Shot Rifle: Tips to Improve Its Accuracy. five .17 HMR loads. at 3,400 fps and zeroed the same is down three inches at 100 yards. The Remington case is about 0.006 inch larger in diameter at its body/shoulder juncture, and its head-space dimension is about 0.004 inch longer. #9. h1000, 160gr AB's, fed215's and good brass will get you what your looking for. By nearly every metric on the market, the 6.5 PRC is now the trendiest, best-selling precision hunting cartridge availableand for very good reason. All rights reserved. The 7mm Remington Magnum is capable of pushing 160-grain bullets to 3,000 and even 3,100 fps, which makes it an excellent choice for deer and antelope hunting. Berger bullet You must log in or register to reply here. Hornady, Remington, and Winchester list new cartridge cases, although the modest popularity of the round makes their availability spotty. First, a bit of background history. The Federal Premium V-Shok load we tested uses a 17 grain Speer TNT JHP bullet at a claimed MV of 2550 fps and ME of 245 ft. lbs. staff members, including yours truly, shot groups through five Accurate Arms was incorporated in McEwen, Tennessee, in 1980, after several years of selling surplus powders from the U.S. government. : 4,638 4,917 Press. Incidentally, in a H322 w/ 50 gr. Subscriber Services. The first three were rimless versions of the Winchester cartridges, with slight dimensional changes, and had 0.421-inch rims. energy is 135 ft. lbs. And the recommended trim length is 1.910 inches. This round is excellent for plinking and firearms safety training. I never used RL19, so I have no . Same goes for the Mach IV and Fireball, although the velocity difference between the two bullet weights is less in them. Powder shortages over the last few years have also aided Accurates acceptance, as handloaders turned to alternatives for unavailable favorites. This is the powder I load in my Cooper Firearms Model 22 .243 for target shooting. If not, the bullet comes apart in the barrel or on the way to the target. It may seem odd that a cartridge shooting fat, heavy bullets at moderate velocities would still be popular 116 years after its introduction. AccurateShooter.com has load data for .223 Rem, 6mmBR, .243 Win, 6.5x47 Lapua, .308 Win, 6.5-284 and 7mm cartridges, with info on brass, powders . There is a great deal of variation in .22 Hornet brass. Hammer Bullets' 18 grain Dead Blow is another excellent nontoxic (California compliant) option milled from a single piece of copper. Absolute minimum barrel gap and the barrel nut tight. Not good. of Israeli Defense Forces, joins David Fortier for an exclusive interview for Shotgun News. 17 Remington 20 Caliber: 20 Vartag 20 Vartag Turbo 22 Rim Fire: Testing The Effects Of The Hoen 4000 Plus Barrel Tuner On .22 Rimfire Accuracy Walther KK200 With Different Ammo At 50 and 100 Yards 22 Rim Fire Ammo Test Shooting 20 of those cartridges is enough fun for a day. We used the four Extreme velocity spread was 12 fps. A number of the cartridges were Ackleys designs while the others had been sent to him by various other developers for inclusion in his two-volume Handbook For Shooters & Reloaders. Good factory-loaded .22-250 ammunition is offered by Black Hills, Federal, Hornady, Remington, and Winchester. Neither the author nor Outdoor Sportsman Group assumes any liability for accidents or injury resulting from the use or misuse of this data. The Remington Model Seven is ready, willing and able to handle just about any task. Recently picked up another old Sako Vixen (L46) this one in 222 Rem Mag., and so far, best load is 26.5 IMR 4895, 50 gr. Choose your caliber, bullet and bullet weight to find your desired Hornady load data. Re: 17 Remington Likes Dislikes [Re: andrews1958] #6836728 The Berger reloading manual shows the exact same maximum powder charge weights for both. his or her individual rifle. Accurates powders hung in limbo for some time, overshadowed by Alliant, Hodgdon, IMR and Winchester powders until Western bought Accurate in 2005. I usually load it with Speer Gold dots or Winchester Rangers. For this comparison, G&S Online By that time most of his hearing was gone, and his daughter would answer the phone and relay the conversation back and forth between her father and the caller. Remington brass and the Federal 205M primer were used in all the following loads. Hey guys, i've got one of the Remington 700 SPS in 17 Fireball. The Lee Factory Crimp Die (#90828 for the .35 Rem.) Regardless, it was a foolish stunt. Initial problems Its not the flattest-shooting varmint combination, but the whole idea is to crawl within 150 yards of marmots sunning on big boulders. It may be a touch too slow burning for the .22-250 still, 55-grain bullets reached slightly over 3,600 fps with groups close to .5 inch. All proved to be 100 yards with the 17 Grain V-MAX bullet at a catalog MV of 2550 fps. Groups were nice round clusters, not two here and three there. Ballistic uniformity was just fine, with the coefficient of variation (C.O.V.) Mag. The CCI A17 load has a catalog MV of 2650 fps and chronographed between 2775 and 2809 fps from our test rifles. The reloader can choose from a great selection of traditional and high-tech 7mm bullets - from 100 to 175 grains. This means the bullet hits dead on at 145 yards and about 1.5" low at Greetings. fun. Primer Hornady V-max 25 gr. extreme spread 77 fps; average = 2658 fps. British deer: A guide to identifying the six species found here and where to stalk them, Choosing the right bullets for deer stalking. To show viewers how to succeed at long range, J. Guthrie gears up for a challenging shot while chasing Colorado pronghorn at long range with DPMS' Panther 6.5 Creedmoor. Deer seasons in the UK. In addition, as I mentioned earlier, Hornady makes the innovative 200-grain FTX bullet. The Sierra 200-grain RN is very similar to Hornadys, and it registered 2,198 fps with a charge of 43.0 grains of LVR; it grouped into an inch or less. Of course, varmint hunting is an outdoor . at 3,800 fps has close to the same trajectory. At 200 yards you will The 25 gr. and Shooting Online Chrony chronograph. Hornady HP cut a notch in the tailbone segment and the shock killed the darned Coyote. The catalog 100 yard velocity is 1900 fps and the 100 yard In the course of our rifle reviews we ordinarily test for accuracy using as many different loads as possible and tabulate the results. Id say that is darn good accuracy for a cartridge invented in 1906. In a precision-built rifle with a good barrel, the .17 Rem. The .35 Rem. used in the rifles. From Accurate 5744 to 4350, Accurate offers plenty of powders for varmint hunters, from the substantial .25-06 down to the pocket- sized .17 Fireball. I'd load 55 and 60gn bullets in your rifle. You can use W-748 - 29gn drives the Hornady 50gn Z-Max at 3400 fps; 28gn gets the Speer 52gn HP going 3350 fps; 27gn drives the Sierra 55gn Super Roo at 3300; and 25.5gn pushes the Hornady 60gn V-Max along at about 3100 fps. Ive burned several pounds of A-2700 in the .22-250 and Swift. So I'm thinking that if any of these work well for you, the others should, too. However, there is always some The cartridge is available in bullet weights of 36 to 80 grains. The .17 Mach 2 (.17 M2) cartridge is based on a CCI Stinger .22 LR case necked down to accept .17 caliber bullets. Groups hover around an inch at 100 yards. The second rifle is a Traditions Outfitter single shot. This slow-burning, double-based spherical powder is intended mainly for short magnum cartridges and the 7mm and .300 belted magnums. This powder also flows precisely through a powder measure. rifles still filling freezers with venison, walls with mounted deer heads, and floors with bearskin rugs. A 50-grain V-Max exiting the muzzle of a rifle in .223 Rem. With the Adaptive Tactical Tac Hammer barrel on a good, tight Ruger 10/22, these results are possible at a long 100 yards. Joseph Von Benedikt visits with Aaron Oelger from Hodgdon about the unprecedented demand on the shooting supply industry. My most accurate 41 mag load still is a Lyman 410610 GC WW pushed by 21.3 grains 296 in my 41 Mag Dan Wesson 8 " heavy barrel. All rights reserved. Make sure to watch till the end. It's also capable of long-distance shots. The spherical powder flows smoothly and precisely through a measure, so powder is dispensed directly into cases to reduce loading time. When both are loaded to maximum chamber pressures and fired in barrels of the same length, the Ackley cartridge is about 100 fps faster. exceeded its published MV by 59 fps, the Hornady Varmint Express ammo The die in the middle is the Lee Factory Crimp Die, and it firmly crimps the case neck into the bullets cannelure, which is essential for consistent ballistics and safe handloads. As a resultand as a testament to the .35 Rem.s endearing popularityFederal, Remington, and Winchester still offer factory-loaded ammunition for it, all with fast-opening, 200-grain roundnose bullets at a listed velocity of 2,080 fps. Hornady Zero the .17 Ackley Hornet with the Hornady 20-grain V-Max at 3,600 fps two inches high at 100 yards and it is two inches high at 200 yards and four inches low at 300. Paper_Sniper: The load I am about to relay to you has been exceptionally accurate in several 223 Remington Varmint type Rifles I own. During fire-forming the case will headspace on its rim and the shoulder will be moved forward to the Ackley position. Then there are always the cases from fired factory loads. Additionally, ammunition for the .17 HMR is often somewhat cheaper, too; for instance, MidwayUSA lists loads priced from $10.99 to $14.99 per fifty-round package, with the leadless options comprising the . is rather low, at 33,500 psi, so the case is rather lightly constructed. from that 120 gr. One is the Marlin Model 336 lever action (made in 1975). More Than 450 Handloads. All shooting with our five .17 HMR rifles was done at The 6.5 bullets have very high ballistic coefficients and sectional density for their weight. Stepping up to 24 grain yields a considerable jump in velocity to 3,944fps and 518ft/lb energy. is the only one of those four Remington rounds still in production, although few rifles have been chambered for it of late. I understand this is an old thread, but want to reply anyway. Unfortunately, most of this success is due to its widespread use in semi-automatic rifles. How does the performance of the .17s compare with .22 caliber varmint cartridges? Remington 7 1/2. Both bullets are plenty accurate for big-game hunting. Norma 200, 55gr. In those days, Winchester had the edge on the market with the popular Model 1984 and its fleet of cartridges. After looking at load data for the 17 Mach IV and looking at Quickload, it seems something in the burn rate of IMR 4198, Vihta Vuori N110, Alliant 2400, Alliant Reloader 7, Hodgdon Lil'Gun, Alliant Blue Dot, and IMR 4227 would meet the requirement. When I began testing .22 Long Rifle rifles and ammunition for accuracy, good results were a two-inch group at 50 yards. This has been the most consistantly accurate load combo I've found for both 222s'. Learn more here: http://bit.ly/1G7xXag. need to hold 5.5" above the desired point of impact. The V-Maxs are my all-time favourite, they shoot flat, are accurate and humanely despatch the quarry like nothing else. Except for the CCI A17 load, all brands claim a muzzle velocity (MV) of 2525-2550 fps and in our chronograph testing actually delivered average MVs of 2550-2650 fps, depending on the load. And which possesses a flat trajectory with a very small risk of ricochets, combined with little recoil? Accurate Shooter Forum and Daily Bulletin Gun Blog. IMR 4064 is a medium-range burn speed powder and is one of the most versatile propellant in the IMR line, used for 223 Remington, 22-250 Remington, 220 Swift, 6mm Remington, 243 Winchester Super Short Magnum, 308 Winchester, 338 Winchester Magnum, and the list goes on and on. I've managed to get 5 shot groups of .55" @ 100, and 1.70" @ 300. instrumental velocities for our five loads, including the highest While velocities with this stick powder lagged a bit behind the LVR loads, accuracy in the Model 336 was 0.67 inch with the Speer 180-grain SPFN and 0.83 inch with the Hornady 200-grain FTX. Although I enjoy reloading, I would rather spend time hunting. The home of Shooting Times, Sporting Gun and Airgun Shooter. All RifleShooter subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. Accuracy was great, but velocity was slower than with other powders. High-Volume Reloading for Varminters by Graymist. loads, this is obviously very accurate factory loaded ammunition. Called flyers--the result of like the weather in Eugene, wait a while and it will change.) I picked up a rifle that I've been wanting for a long time: a 700 Classic in 17 Remington. smaller (3-5/16" diameter) bullseyes on each target, which we thought An additional 100 fps of velocity might be squeezed from other powders in the .22-250, but youd be hard-pressed to improve accuracy. CCI 450. They just blow up! It is about 600 fps faster than the .17 Hornets and an honest 300 fps faster than the Mach IV and the Fireball. The riflescopes Remington 7 1/2 BR. When I had my Browning B78 in 6mm Remington, I used a Hornady 87 grain bullet with IMR 4350 for everything including deer even though it had no channeler. Joseph Von Benedikt is with Rafe Nielsen of Browning to take a look at a new X-Bolt series rifle. 4831 is the better powder for the 25/06. A check of the Hodgdon Reloading Center website shows good velocities with Varget, IMR 4320, IMR 3031, H4895, and several others. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. But he became best known for the development of wildcat and improved cartridges bearing his name. Anschutz Model 1717 D Classic, .17 HMR - 0.92", (TIE) CZ Model 452-2E American, .17 HMR - 1.06", Anschutz Model 1717 D KL, .17 HMR - 1.08", (TIE) Remington Model 547 Custom C Grade, .17 HMR - 1.13", (TIE) Remington Model 504-T LS HB, .17 HMR - 1.16", Thompson/Center Contender G2, .17 HMR - 1.21", Marlin Model 917VS ("B")*, .17 HMR - 1.25", Winchester 1885 Low Wall Hunter, .17 WSM - 1.25", Savage Model 93R17 Classic, .17 HMR - 1.31", Ruger M77/17VMBBZ ("A")*, .17 HMR - 1.44", Stevens Favorite Model 30R17, .17 HMR - 1.46", Ruger M77/17VMBBZ ("B")*, .17 HMR - 1.54", Winchester 1885 Low Wall, .17 HMR - 2.05", Remington Model 547 Custom C Grade, .17 HMR - 0.69" (Remington), Anschutz Model 1717 D Classic, .17 HMR - 0.73" (CCI), Savage B.MAG Target, .17 WSM - 0.75" (Winchester), Thompson/Center Contender G2, .17 HMR - 0.80" (Remington), Remington Model 597 LS HB, .17 HMR - 0.84" (CCI), Browning T-Bolt Target/Varmint, .17 HMR - 0.88" (Winchester), Anschutz Model 1717 D KL, .17 HMR - 0.93" (Remington), Weatherby Mark XXII, .17 HMR - 0.94" (Hornady), CZ Model 452-2E American, .17 HMR - 0.96" (CCI), Remington Model 504-T LS HB, .17 HMR - 0.98" (Federal), (TIE) Marlin Model 917VS ("A")*, .17 HMR - 1.0" (Hornady), Anschutz Model 1502 D HB, .17 M2 - 1.06" (Hornady), Marlin Model 917VS ("B")*, .17 HMR - 1.13" (Hornady), (TIE) Savage Model 93R17-BTVS, .17 HMR - 1.17" (CCI), (TIE) Ruger M77/17VMBBZ ("A")*, .17 HMR - 1.25" (Hornady), Stevens Favorite Model 30R17, .17 HMR - 1.27" (Hornady & Remington - tie), (TIE)Henry Golden Boy, .17 HMR - 1.40" (Remington), Ruger M77/17VMBBZ ("B")*, .17 HMR - 1.47" (CCI), Winchester 1885 Low Wall, .17 HMR - 1.5" (Remington). Thats why, even today, people who talk of the .17 say it dirties barrels, burns out barrels and is affected by the wind because of the lightweight projectile. (See the article Compared: .17 HMR Varmint Ammunition for more details about .17 HMR ammo.). I prefer 20-grain bullets in the .17 Hornets because they can be pushed much faster than 25-grain bullets. With the Hornady 200-grain RN, a charge of 44.0 grains gave a velocity of 2,145 fps, with a muzzle energy of 2,044 ft-lbs. We shot at Outers Score Keeper targets. Nosler 50-grain Ballistic Tips clocked 3,323 fps with 24.5 grains of A-2200 in the .223. Here at Guns and Shooting Online we have had the opportunity to review many .17 caliber rimfire rifles and we are continuing to do so. also used in CCI and Remington factory loads. Most Accurate powders are now made by General Dynamics Ordnance and Tactical Systems St. Marks Powder in Florida or Valleyfield in Quebec, Canada. Finally, beware of reduced loads, as we want to make sure that all bullets make it out of the barrel.

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